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Bring back the town hall debate!

15/4/2025

7 Comments

 
PictureRobert Durkacz laments the lack of serious discussion in the
Monash election.
By Robert Durkacz
 
AS AN independent candidate for Monash I needed 100 signatures to nominate myself. It didn’t work out that way and I had to give up the idea.  By dropping out I saved the $2000 deposit. But my candidature was only a means to an end.  I wanted to take part in the election to raise one substantial issue that the other candidates ignore, thinking there is no public interest in it.  The issue is the descent of the USA into anarchy, threatening to take the western alliance down with it.
 
Had the breaking up of the western alliance become a matter of public discussion in the Monash election, I would have thought a consensus might emerge that Australia should take an energetic position. We should be very straightforward and honest with the American people. We should have as little to do with the US administration as possible. We should wear tariffs without complaint – not ask for favours. And we should express solidarity with Ukraine, Canada, Denmark/Greenland, Mexico, etc. We should accept the risk of retaliation that goes with that. My reason for standing as a candidate was to get these issues discussed.

The first thing I did was get a flyer printed. The first recipient was Russell Broadbent's office. Following this I handed out flyers to passers-by in Warragul. I did not mean to reach the whole electorate with thousands of flyers, rather to get an impression what the people in the street think about the dire prospects of the western alliance. In Warragul in particular I found quite a decent level of awareness. I repeated the exercise in Wonthaggi, Cowes and San Remo. I had useful conversations in each of those towns.
 
From canvassing, I find people in the street are aware whereas candidates are not.
 
In the Monash electorate, our candidates are conducting the usual lowest common denominator campaigns. It is an advertising contest where most of the advertisements consist of nothing more than the candidate's face and name. Candidates make out that they can secure benefits from the federal government. If there is any truth there it means they hope to sell their votes in return for such gifts. From this we can infer that they are motivated by personal ambition since they take us to be motivated by self-interest. 
 
Let’s go through the viable candidates.
  • Russell Broadbent is well-known and by now we can see that he does not think about national-level issues except perhaps for his eccentric views on vaccines and climate change.
  • The Labor candidate Tully Fletcher’s publicity is particularly vacuous. He is on about roads and the like.
  • Deb Leonard is a generic Teal, meaning that she subscribes to orthodox views about climate change and probity but beyond this she is weak on policy.
  • The Liberal candidate Mary Aldred was quoted as being in favour of dog parks in some locality - it does not befit a prospective MP to talk such nonsense.
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Aldred is the likely winner, by virtue of being Liberal-endorsed. If she becomes an MP it will be without ever having to answer a question with political content. We simply don’t know what her attitudes and motivations are. Which faction of the Liberals does she belong to? Is she a climate-change denier, or is she perhaps an unannounced Liberal party reformer, determined to get the party to take climate change seriously when she gets a chance? We have no clue, and it does not suit her to tell us.

The only right way to have an election is through debate and discussion in open media. National newspapers serve this purpose but our constitution has us choosing MPs at a local level. In the old days, the debates would be held in a town hall or the like. Nowadays, with the benefit of the internet, it is so much easier to have them on-line.
 
This time it looks like there will be no debates at all in Monash. The local papers have internet presence but will not sponsor debates. I tried to contact all candidates to suggest we collectively organise public discussion or debate sessions. None got back. Russell Broadbent as the current MP is funded, equipped and capable of supporting community-based discussion. He didn’t even reply.
 
Local media coverage is nothing but publicity events organised by candidates, always associating the candidate with some local thing that has nothing to with federal-level policy. 
 
All the candidates encourage people to complain about roads if they can't think of anything else. The roads are fine and they are not a federal responsibility. There are important economic issues facing us, as ever, but simply complaining about the cost of living is not leading to constructive policy, it is leading to stupid policy proposals. After all, this is election time. 
7 Comments
Robert Durkacz
17/4/2025 09:17:08 am

Thanks to the BC Post for publishing. Please tell us where the picture came from, there is no credit.

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Geoff Ellis
20/4/2025 11:58:54 pm

Thanks Bob, a very insightful and well researched snapshot of how we get the government we deserve.

And, yep, thank you, BCP, for providing the space for considered and reasonable and diverse discussion over the last 12 years. For free, as a public service.. Thank you for that massive effort.

Bob, I generally agree with you but question a couple of details:

Our roads are not fine. Far from it. The Federal Government provides specific grant funding to LGAs for roads and other council stuff. Roads are a federal matter. We are 'served' by a National Highway system.

In relation to our incumbent, "Eccentric' in this context is an understatement. Just one example - he voted against marriage equality when the vast majority of the people he was elected to represent were in favour. AND providing a non-vacc role model and undermining the efforts of medical authorities went far beyond 'eccentric'. Unhealthy, perhaps? Certainly unpopular.

And you label an independent a 'Generic Teal' ?That's a tad, mmm, stereotypical, eh? Deb did pretty well last time round (23%) and has been building strong connections with our community over kitchen tables and at front doors across the electorate for over five years.

Polices are great to have but even the Prime Minister doesn't get all of his manifesto over the line. That's politics, working together.

I do heartily agree with you about Town Hall meetings and note their absence. One factor causing this is the workload on community organisations struggling to meet their daily commitments, the need for security - even council meetings have security guards - and a large portion of Monash residents are so poorly served by internet providers that on-line group meetings are unviable and many people choose to NOT connect anyway.

There has been plenty of opportunity for candidates door knocking and holding 'kitchen table conversations or 'town hall' meetings of their own. Politics in the Pub? Anyone?

Cheers Folks,.






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Robert Durkacz
21/4/2025 08:46:04 pm

It is very good to get a reply.

Roads. I really don't see any general problem in the roads in any parts of Victoria that I frequent. I do see a lot of money going into roads and I don't hear anyone saying we really should be putting more money into roads.

I do understand that the Commonwealth government puts in a lot of money for infrastructure by way of grants, but I do not think that changes the fact that roads are a state responsibility. I do not know a good reason for Commonwealth grants except where the infrastructure is of national significance but I do know a bad reason, which is to facilitate pork barrelling to influence elections. Increasingly this kind of thing is understood to verge on corruption. A good policy might be to ensure infrastructure grants are assessed at arm's length from local MP's. In any case I think the candidates' talk of securing bounty from the next government is mostly empty.

Teals. Debbie Leonard is a generic Teal in my book and that is a good enough reason to vote for her. She is mainly interested in winning and her campaign is a generic one heavy on advertising. If I were still a candidate I would put her at no 2. But we should get more out of our democracy (rather than 'more for Monash') as I have described in my article.

'Kitchen table conversations' is a phrase that connects you with the Teal/Community Independents push and it is hogwash, like doorknocking. The kind of discussion and debate we need is where everyone hears the question and hears the same answer and there is wide participation and good quality contributions. It is a good thing to debate and discuss national issues with our MPs and candidates. It would brings the important matters that we have to deal with closer to the average person, just as you or I cannot get an opinion piece published in The Age or The Australian but we can in the BC Post.

If you are interested in for instance, Politics in the Pub, then we are on the same wavelength and it is up to the likes of you and me to promote it. One of several ways to do that is by email contact. I am at [email protected] .

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Geoff Ellis
21/4/2025 11:30:41 pm

Bob,

There is no public transport that works for me in this region so I use our roads every single day. They are not fit for purpose.

Anyway, I'm glad you explained that candidate Leonard has "good enough reason to vote for her". Agreed.

And I agree with you re Politics in Pub (or anywhere else). It's up to us to build on the efforts of BCP and start somewhere. My email is [email protected] and my publicly minded facebook page is "Around the Shire with Geoff". The State Election will happen in 2026. The buck starts here, comrade.

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Jennifer
25/4/2025 08:41:44 am

Hi, I'm more interested in hearing about your views on gender equality, why was the constitution changed from sexes to gender? Climate change real or propaganda, death taxes and inheritance taxes would you support them? Getting international companies to pay into Australia not taking out. Superannuation being taxed? Your views on vaccines, these are things that I would like to see candidates discuss. All I hear are fake promises that they don't have the ability to fulfill. Deb Leonard wouldn't even talk to my friend about women's rights, yet this to me is another issue that should be discussed openly. Oh and a couple of other things digital ID and currency I don't hear anything about this either.

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Robert Durkacz
25/4/2025 02:14:23 pm

Hi Jennifer.

Good to hear from you.

I think you and I have the same idea about the importance of open discussion. In connection with that both me and Geoff Ellis (see above) might manage to set up a forum complementary to this site in the near future. I gave my contact details above.

I do not have opinions about everything or the knowledge either.

Main thing about climate change is it is real, it needs to be taken seriously and the LNP has been giving the wrong message for 25 years.

I give no credence to vaccine denialism. Vaccines have probably saved your life and my life a few times over by now. Vaccines stopped the coronavirus epidemic.

My opinion about the economic issues that you raise is only that they have to handled professionally. We want to have a professional standard government, right?

Women's rights and gender issues. My view is that these things can be sorted out calmly, there is no huge difficulties. Are you talking about sex-change issues? (I don't know that there was any change to the constitution. That takes a lot of doing so we would know about it if there was.)

Your views are just as important as mine and you have as many as I do. You could perhaps write an opinion piece for BC Post (?)

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Robert Durkacz
25/4/2025 03:58:22 pm

You are not worried about America going to the dogs?

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