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Plaza rally ban irks refugee group

10/10/2019

49 Comments

 
Shopping centres might be privately owned enterprises but they should also be civic spaces where people gather to discuss the issues of the day, argues Felicia Di Stefano
PictureRefugee advocates outside the Wonthaggi Plaza in happier times.
Photo: Geoff Ellis
​By Felicia Di Stefano
 
WE WERE kicked out of the Wonthaggi Plaza last month.  For over two years a local refugee support group, South Gippsland Rural Australians for Refugees, had been meeting outside the plaza for an hour on the first Saturday of each month.
 
We distribute information about refugees, explaining why they need to flee their birthland, to inform people about the current treatment of refugees, films we are screening, and to have various petitions and letters signed.

​But in August the Coles manager came to tell us we had no right to be there, that this was private property and we needed permission from the plaza manager.  So much for the community support Coles speaks of on its website.

​We chose the plaza as a meeting place as it was public, spacious and had a roof.  It had been a great decision.  We stand outside but to the sides and away from the doors, usually around the large pillars, making sure we do not block the foot traffic or other traffic.

Between four and ten of us stood quietly with signs such as; “Everybody has a right to a safe home” and “Refugees are welcome here”. 
 
People would come up to speak about refugee issues, take a flier, sign a petition or just have a laugh and a chat. Some would drop a dollar into our collection box to be passed onto organisations that support refugees. Some walked past quickly, looking the other way. Some turned a frowning face towards us and some let us know clearly that they would rather not let refugees into Australia. But the latter were in the minority. ​
​The manager of Wonthaggi Plaza, Joy Huson, responded:
We have recently spoken to a representative of RAR and offered them space within the centre, with a table and chairs, free of charge, where customers can approach them to find out more about RAR and the good work that they do.
  For any local group to come into the centre, they must have public liability insurance and we happily accommodate them. To date they have not taken us up on this offer.
  Please understand, we do not allow ANY group to hold a rally outside the shopping centre, but they are always welcome (in smaller numbers) to book a space inside the centre.
We came to look forward to our Saturday morning rallies which we evaluated as useful tools towards our goal of informing the public about the current conditions of the refugees who tried to come to Australia for safety, peace and protection.
 
We wrote to the manager of Wonthaggi Plaza, Joy Huson, telling her who we are, what we have been doing and asking permission to keep meeting at the plaza.  She said no.  We could, she said, apply each month for permission to have a little table with one, at the most two, people sitting inside the plaza but no, we could not resume the meetings we had been holding for two years.  We could be like all the other charities. But we are not a charity. We are a community organisation whose members enjoy interacting with other members of the community.
 
So much for supporting community unity, interaction and spirit.  It seems we are only welcome at the Wonthaggi Plaza if we are spending money there. 
 
I contacted David Whiting, the lawyer on Jon Faine’s morning program on the ABC. He told me that Joy had every right to banish us as we were meeting on private property.
 
These newcomers have the law on their side but so did Vesteys, the huge pastoralists, when they amassed huge chunks of Australia and did not allow the first people to hunt there.
 
The Wonthaggi historian, Sam Gatto, told us of a long ago Wonthaggi where people used to gather in town and discuss all sorts of things and life in general. Gatherings in public places were a part of the Wonthaggi community when each was helping the other during the miners’ strike. I feel it remains in the friendly feeling of Wonthaggi I have when I walk the streets, smile at people and have chats. It is even in our Wonthaggi song:
“As I walk down the street
All my pals I will greet
On the same corner where we used to meet.”
 
Being free to gather in public places is a part of the friendly Wonthaggi community, part of the ethos of the town.  Even though the plaza is privately owned it is where the public is invited to spend their money. Then why not to meet one another, to gather and discuss the issues of the day? 
 
Felicia Di Stefano is a member of South Gippsland Rural Australians for Refugees.
Picture
Trading spaces have always been gathering places. Wonthaggi, early 1970s. Bonds corner, looking south on McBride Avenue. Photo: Frank Coldebella
49 Comments
James
11/10/2019 12:13:36 pm

It doesn't take a lot of thought to see what is wrong with the attitude of the writer. The single issue group who imagine they are changing the world whereas in reality they are just inconveniencing people who are trying to get their shopping done. What a terrible thing that people have made up their own mind! And how dare they disagree with you?

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Jessica
11/10/2019 01:40:39 pm

In our years outside the Plaza, we talk to many local people - as well as supporting refugees, they donate to us for the Asylum Seekers Resource Centre, showing compassion is alive and well in Wonthaggi.

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James
11/10/2019 05:23:05 pm

Sounds like the owners of the arcade have been very tolerant of your activities which provide no benefit to their shoppers. You should thank them and move on. Perhaps a public park where people who are interested can seek out your counsel.

Felicia Di Stefano
11/10/2019 01:48:58 pm

Our grassroots, Australia-wide nonpolitical movement seeks justice for asylum seekers and refugees; decent treatment of people who run from torture and bombs and come to ask us for help. We respect all opinions based on facts and are happy to discuss any issue. We are careful to stand to the side of the doors and make an effort not to inconvenience anyone.

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James
11/10/2019 05:24:40 pm

It sounds like you are not really interested in other people's views but just forcing your own views on others. Good luck with your mission, wherever it takes place.

Liz
11/10/2019 01:06:09 pm

If the Group complied and paid their Public Liability insurance they could sit inside, but, no, that idea is not in keeping with their wish to be publicly seen to be "virtue signalling".

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Felicia Di Stefano
11/10/2019 01:53:15 pm

We do have insurance, Liz, I wonder where you get your information. The point is to gather in public spaces with the Wonthaggi community to share facts about refugees and asylum seekers as well as current news.

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James
11/10/2019 05:25:55 pm

I wonder what our shopping area would be like if every fringe group did the same. I guess others have more respect for the rights of the public to go about their business unimpeded.

Deborah
11/10/2019 01:22:02 pm

They may say they stand outside "away from the doors, making sure we do not block the foot traffic", but that is not the case in reality. Even the photo above shows they are causing shoppers to have to walk right into and around them, being directly confronted with them. The public have a right to choose to hear a message - or not.
Imagine if a preacher was stationed there telling people about the love of God. There would be an outcry!
They can have a table inside like every other group, meaning that members of the public can actually make a choice if they want to receive the information, instead of having it pushed upon them.
But they won't do that.
The lack of community support they accuse Coles of has nothing to do with allowing private lobby groups to confront shoppers who are innocently trying to do their errands.
I write all this, and yet I agree with their message. I just don't agree with their methods.

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Felicia Di Stefano
11/10/2019 02:20:06 pm

We do make a point of standing to the side not be obstructive. The displayed photo is from over two years ago and as we agree with Deborah that we should not block people's access, the group resolved some time ago, to stand discreetly to the sides and around the supporting pillars. Again we agree with Deborah and make a point of not confronting but do welcome people who approach. The idea of a community is mingling in groups rather than sitting separately behind a table.

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Felicia Di Stefano
11/10/2019 02:25:32 pm

Oh and Deborah I am so glad that you agree with our message. You are cordially invited to join SGRAR and help us formulate our action plans.

James
11/10/2019 05:29:40 pm

So not only do you tell people what they should think about asylum seekers but also what constitutes a community. Very much into the idea of telling people what to think and do I see.

Janice Orchard
11/10/2019 03:27:59 pm

While I have no issue with the group or their message I can't see why they have to use the space in front of the Wonthaggi Plaza.
Why not use the public spaces such as Apex Park or the park at the top of McBride Avenue. Plenty of room for a large group without being a nuisance. Or perhaps SGRAR could do what every other community group has to....pay for a meeting room.
I tend not to listen to any group who I find confrontational.
The attitude of the writer does not help change my mind.

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Peter Ghys
11/10/2019 04:06:33 pm

Janice, you seem to be missing the point completely; these are not internal meetings, they are meetings where we can meet the public and present a point of view and if people want to discuss, do that.

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James
11/10/2019 05:31:40 pm

Can the public not meet you at the public park? Of course they can but you know nobody would turn up. You don't have a right to force your views on others. It speaks volumes that you still defend your actions based on an annoying self righteousness that you are doing the rest of us a favour!

rob
11/10/2019 04:32:18 pm

Peter, I don't think that Janice is missing the point at all, in fact I think that its you guys that are missing the point.
Go and do your thing in Apex Park where you can meet the public and present your point of view, if they care to listen to it, and not on Private property.
And I so agree that the attitude of the writer does not help your cause one little bit.

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Liz
12/10/2019 01:43:09 pm

Totally agree.

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Wendy Davis
11/10/2019 05:42:56 pm

I’m always thrilled to see people standing up for and raising awareness of the challenges faced by others. Each time I see this group I feel lucky to be part of such a caring community. It is disappointing that Plaza management has made this decision, and I hope they reconsider as meeting outside and offering conversation and education is a much more pleasant community experience for everyone. I’ve only ever seen this group be respectful, and I’m grateful for their efforts.

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Alison
11/10/2019 06:31:26 pm

I want my community to show compassion to less fortunate humans, and a group of caring and respectful people standing quietly outside the Plaza for a couple of hours a month is hardly a threat or an inconvenience to me. If I'm not interested in a message someone offers me, I just say "no thanks". Rural Australians for Refugees wants the public to know the facts (eg 95% of people stranded on Nauru by the Australian Govt have been determined to be genuine refugees according to UN criteria, but are being punished indefinitely for being forced to leave their homelands). I'm very disappointed with Plaza management's decision, and hope they reconsider.

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Marci
11/10/2019 09:55:27 pm

Agreed! I’ve never once been inconvenienced Or approached by this group, but their presence made me feel like I live in an empathetic and compassionate community. It seems that so many people these days have a hard time thinking about anyone other than themselves.. it’s a rare thing to see people donating their time and energy advocating for less advantaged groups, and I applaud them for putting themselves out there.

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Mary Schooneveldt
11/10/2019 07:19:18 pm

This particular group has been raising local community awareness about ongoing policy issues that severely impact asylum seekers on a regular basis. They have done this utilising a variety of methods (meetings, speakers, films) for many years. Plus provided much needed support of all kinds to asylum seekers and refugees in our community. SGRAR’s respectful, public presence adds life to asylum seeker issues in a Shire that officially ‘welcomes refugees’. I’d like to see this kind of visible public reminder to continue in a space that takes into account the legitimate rights of all parties.

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Joy Button
11/10/2019 07:49:06 pm

I am really saddened to read some of the aggressive comments directed towards SGRAR. We are so lucky to live in such a lucky country when so many in other countries have had to flee their homes and families in tragic circumstances. We live in a society of free speech. Life is short ..... show a little kindness. Please.

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mark robertson
11/10/2019 09:31:09 pm

Perhaps SGAR could start handing out a range of tiny, plastic asylum-seeker figurines.It might align more closely with the Plaza's corporate values. Felecia and supporters, save your valuable emotional energies for the bigger fight, that of ending our govenments cruel and heartless treatment of refugees. Your efforts are making our world a kinder place.

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Neil Rankine
11/10/2019 10:11:21 pm

Some of the writers here should read other articles in this edition of the Post where the way Wonthaggi people used to all talk, get on and help each other out are discussed. That attitude is still here in Wonthaggi, let's all just get on, accept each others differences and perhaps put up with a little inconvenience.

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Nicky
11/10/2019 10:20:39 pm

If you've ever sat in a history class learning about historical human right abuses and wondered what you would have done had you been there, then maybe you would be doing what we are doing now.
Among other actions, SGRAR gathers once a month for an hour to continue to highlight the human right abuses happening under the Australian Government's indefinite offshore detention policy.
We do not want to upset, or even inconvenience, people but we do want the public to be aware of the human right abuses embedded in our Government's asylum seeker and refugee policies.

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Michael Whelan
11/10/2019 10:48:30 pm

Keep it up Felicia and team. I suggest you not respond to the trolls who use your post as a way to express their aggression. Your article puts a point of view it is open for them to express their views reasonably but they choose abuse, do not respond they do not warrant it,

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Bron Dahlstrom
11/10/2019 11:36:40 pm


I moved to Inverloch 10 years ago and instantly fell in love with the community spirit in both Inverloch and especially Wonthaggi. Of course people hold many different views and discussing these views is what makes the community. I was so pleased at the last election when I gave out how to vote cards that everyone handing out cards, even though our political views were diverse, had very friendly chats with each other.

As for RAR, this group has met at ApexPark sometimes, but rain makes this unsuitable on many occasions. Having a regular, dry place to meet is far better. The group discusses refugees with those who approach them. I have occasionally joined the group outside Coles and people have approached us because they wanted to talk to us and find out more. I remember, in particular, one man who approached me who believed that ‘boat people’ should not be allowed into Australia. Neither of us were going to change our minds, but we still had a great discussion.
> It is such a shame that similar discussions will not be able to take place in future. I appreciate the offer for 1 or 2 people to sit inside, but part of what RAR does include everyone who wants to attend. With a small table, this would not be possible.

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Maddy Harford
11/10/2019 11:42:55 pm

How disappointing to hear such churlish comments from people, who are not being harassed; are not being impeded in their movements; are not being told what to think. Rural Australians for Refugees are reminding us all of the inhuman treatment being accorded to people who sought sanctuary from us, from the hell of war or despots that would torture, incarcerate and murder citizens who would express contrary views to or challenge unconscionable behaviour of governments. How fortunate we are that in Australia, we can take such action and so we should when we truly believe our government needs challenging. This small group's presence once a month at the local shopping centre may or may not change minds but they do us a service reminding us of the facts of an iniquitous situation that must be challenged.

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Lynda Paskas
12/10/2019 01:58:44 am

Thank you, Felicia. Your gentle manner, generosity of spirit and determined commitment to advancing the cause of asylum seekers, is an inspiration and a true labour of Love.

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Pam Maag
12/10/2019 07:10:06 am

It seems that some of the commentators don't care about anyone but themselves and their tiny piece of the world. When I see injustice being done I will not keep quiet, I will not ignore it. I will do what I can to learn about it and to help others do the same. I will fight for justice and humanity no matter if you try to shut me up or spread disinformation. People who are unable to thrive because of terror, war, hunger, racism, beliefs or any other form of supression need our help wherever they are in the world.
To those who are against these protests, how lucky are you to be able to voice your minority opinion? Imagine if you were driven from your home - your country - because of it. Lucky for you I would be out there, in the public domain, protesting your treatment and demanding you be given the opportunity to live your life as you choose

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Geoff Ellis
12/10/2019 08:05:59 am

Keep at it Felicia. I shop and I care.

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Robyn Arianrhod
12/10/2019 09:45:53 am

Hear hear to all the above thoughtful and insightful comments of support to the writer of this article. I, too, say thank-you, Felicia, for reaching out to the community, explaining the intolerable situations that so many of the world's people have fled, and how they are being treated by us and our government. And thank you, too, for reminding us of Wonthaggi's history as a place of community, public discussion, and support for the disadvantaged.

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Tina
12/10/2019 10:08:28 am

Once again compassion being dictated to by consumerism, albeit for one hour a month. It saddens me. Keep up the good and caring work SGRAR.

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Helen
12/10/2019 12:18:48 pm

an hour a month isn't much, I certainly wouldn't find it an inconvenience - I find the non-local groups asking for donations more unpleasant

such a shame to lose an opportunity for community engagement, whether an issue you believe in or not, being able to discuss issues respectfully on neutral ground builds a stronger community

and I thought it would've been good for business too ... I'll now be doing my shopping somewhere else

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Tony Goodfellow
12/10/2019 01:46:40 pm

Good to see signs of compassion in society....“If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor.” — Archbishop Desmond Tutu

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Lily
12/10/2019 02:12:50 pm

Thankyou SGRAR for your important and compassionate work. It is all to easy to overlook this serious problem from the privilege of our comfortable lives. Seeing you out the front of Coles has been a genuine inspiration. It makes me feel like a part of a community that cares and steps up in support of our world citizens. I do hope Coles will reconsider.

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Jeanette Pierce
12/10/2019 02:32:08 pm

This group show all the commitment and integrity our community should value. I might point out just because a community space is privately owned doesn’t make it any less of a community space. Keep at guys and ignore the silly “virtue signalling” messages. You have the moral high ground and history will judge your work kindly. Keep at it.

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Marg Lynn
12/10/2019 03:02:24 pm

I wonder if this is a change of policy when centre management says 'we do not allow ANY group to hold a rally outside the shopping centre'? SGRAR have been meeting there for two years, so I wonder what has changed. Have they been allowing SGRAR to meet despite their policy or has it changed to get rid of them? Have there been complaints? If so it would be good to invite complainants to meet with the group and engage in further discussion. I believe that the majority of the community would welcome any other groups in the metaphoric market square who represent community perspectives if they were to put their point of view as respectfully and non-invasively as SGRAR does, even 'a preacher ... telling people about the love of God'. I applaud the work of SGRAR and the patient and inclusive approach they take to informing the community about the iniquities of the federal government's treatment of those who seek asylum on our shores.

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Cait
12/10/2019 03:53:28 pm

Thank you to the work of Felicia and those committed to the SGRAR mission. Compassion towards other human beings, especially those who are extremely vulnerable and traumatised such as asylum seekers is an expression of humanity and open heartedness. I have been to two SGRAR gatherings and have never witnessed obstruction or harassment by the members involved towards shoppers. Many community members are interested in the issue and stop and chat. It is important to note that it is not Coles who manage the centre, they are just tenants. Keep up the good work SGRAR. Wonthaggi has a long history of collective action and solidarity. Keep it up!

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Aileen
12/10/2019 05:03:45 pm

Do you consider Felicia & members of SGRAR to be selfish, self-interested, unpatriotic even, for standing up in public to inform us of the plight of refugees whose lives we can't imagine? No doubt they would rather be shopping themselves, or out in the garden.
But they are the kindest of people who cannot let the unkindness & injustice being inflicted on people who have committed no crimes, be hidden from public view.
Hands up if you think the world would be a better place if we all showed more kindness & caring...

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Michael Nugent
13/10/2019 01:18:46 am

Thanks Felicia and co for all that you contribute toward making our world more humane and compassionate.

As you rightly say "Even though the plaza is privately owned it is where the public is invited to spend their money" ... I wonder why we accept that invitation; I for one will no longer do so.

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Geoff Ellis
13/10/2019 07:21:49 am

Felicia (and SGRAR). Thank you and please keep reminding us that there are human beings all over this planet, suffering.
They need our support. And that our Federal Government (and opposition) are part of the real problem.

The opening comment started "It doesn't take a lot of thought..." That's the real problem here.

Not a lot of thought beyond the immediate. And bugger all media coverage beyond reactionary stereotyping.

That's why we need SGRAR and The Post everywhere. Everyday.

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Julie Newton
13/10/2019 07:56:26 am

While the plaza’s decision to banish SGRAR saddens me it doesn’t surprise me. Corporations feel no community responsibility - only responsible to shareholders. I will also shop elsewhere. Well done SGRAR for the respectful, & even positive way, you have approached informing & interacting with the wider community. You are giving a voice to those who are unable to make themselves heard.

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Verena
13/10/2019 11:34:32 am

I support this group and find it admirable that they offer information and also care so much for all human kind and specially for those who do not have our free life.
Keep going, Felicia

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Leanne Aitken
14/10/2019 07:43:18 am

Thankyou to Felicia and the people of the SGRAR. Your compassion and good will restores hope in an increasingly self absorbed, consumer driven and xenophobic world.
Thanks for all that you do to draw attention to the sad and desparate plight of others. In the spirit of community I wish you well in your search for a new location. I hope you get the support that you deserve.

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Mandy and Jeremy Evans
14/10/2019 05:58:12 pm

We have nothing but praise for Felicia and her group for their quiet patience and dedication in continuing to inform those who are interested in the terrible plight of refugees and asylum seekers. These people are so much less fortunate than we are and we should surely do all we can to support them in all possible ways. Keep up the good work Felicia.



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vincent di stefano link
17/10/2019 09:06:28 am

The way of truth-speaking has never been easy, particularly in such degenerate times as the present. It has been said that perseverance leads to miracles.
A big thumbs-up to your constancy and perseverance in the cause of the good and the true.

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Karen
20/10/2019 08:13:56 am

Totally support Felicity and the groups right to promote community awareness about grave injustices. I believe the community cares about these issues. These actions are a service to our community and should continue. Shame on Coles!

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Daniel
22/10/2019 08:08:07 am

Because somewhere is a privately owned space, dedicated to the noble goal of financial profit, we allow them to promote ideas and practices which are unhealthy and a direct cost to public health and our community. Supermarkets discount unhealthy items more frequently and by a higher percentage than healthy ones. Essentially, they have no problem getting in our faces to promote heart disease and diabetes. They advertise their profuse unhealthy items in loungerooms and other private and public places in our community. We accept this intrusive, irresponsible corporate advertising and practice but can not tolerate a few people 'selling' compassion and understanding. This is a clear message from the arcade management that they are not interested in supporting our community or indeed those most vulnerable. A table with two people inside the arcade may seem like a reasonable concession, but it is insufficient and of a completely different quality to the public engagement opportunities that have previously taken place without incident. It seems that to engage with the public outside large private retailers you need to be either selling barbequed sausages, or be a paid seller of raffle tickets or some other consumption based fundraising activity. Dare to try to share a message without selling a rubbishy token and you will be at best offered a table to contain and limit you. We need to shift our communities priorities!

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